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"Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo" (rustyvandura) 06/29/2017 at 11:58 • Filed to: None

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Throttle body on the ‘12 Versa. I know a few things about cars, but I don’t think this looks good.

PartyPooper2012 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/29/2017 at 12:00

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Seems your engine is coughing up oil. I would get an MRI/CAT scan. Make sure it’s not air filter cancer.

merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/29/2017 at 12:00

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Eh, pcv system sucking in oil. Maybe the pcv should be replaced and clean out any hoses. My STS would do this too, but not as much oil.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/29/2017 at 12:04

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PCV issue. Not a good thing, no.

As to what to do to fix it, I have no idea. Besides “replace”.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > PartyPooper2012 06/29/2017 at 12:04

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Well, I’m swapping the engine...

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 06/29/2017 at 12:06

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I’m swapping the engine and I found this during disassembly.

PartyPooper2012 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/29/2017 at 12:07

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Talk to your blog commenter and see if engine swap is right for you

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/29/2017 at 12:08

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Is this the old engine?

random001 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 06/29/2017 at 12:08

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This is likely blowby. Ever heard of catchcans? They are there to stop this exact thing. Best guess is PCV valve failure, which is pretty common and easy to fix. That’s without any other data.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > random001 06/29/2017 at 12:11

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Yes, and there was a post here a while ago about it... I remember reading it but most of the information bounced off and the rest evaporated.

random001 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 06/29/2017 at 12:12

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Sorry, that really wasn’t meant for you. Just agreeing with you, and trying to reply to OC.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > random001 06/29/2017 at 12:13

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Makes sense either way, tbh. I know nothing about PCV systems except that this can happen to them.

random001 > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 06/29/2017 at 12:20

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Ah. Well, the pcv is a valve that allows overpressure to release from the engine, but closes when the pressure is relieved. If it doesn’t close, then you just get oil spewed into the pcv system, which leads back to the air intake, and you end up with, well, this.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > PartyPooper2012 06/29/2017 at 12:20

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And call Triple-A if I experience an erection lasting more than four hours.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 06/29/2017 at 12:21

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Yes.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/29/2017 at 12:22

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The only time I’ve had oil coming out of the intake is when there was a hole in a piston.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > random001 06/29/2017 at 12:23

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No, but I’ve heard of Ketchikan .

This is the engine that is being replaced.

notsomethingstructural > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/29/2017 at 12:25

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If you’re replacing the engine who cares. Could be many things - could have been overfilled with oil, could be the rings are shot.

notsomethingstructural > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 06/29/2017 at 12:28

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The PCV is supposed to evacuate oil into the intake, it’s the amount of oil that’s the problem which points to a different issue

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 06/29/2017 at 12:30

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This is going to be the core going back to LKQ.

random001 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/29/2017 at 12:31

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Well, then BURN IT TO THE GROUND!

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > notsomethingstructural 06/29/2017 at 12:31

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Yes.

jimz > random001 06/29/2017 at 13:03

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the PCV valve itself doesn’t block oil from getting into the intake, there should be baffling/separators in the cam cover where the PCV valve draws from. If there’s that much oil in the throttle body, I’d say that’s insanely excessive blowby.

random001 > jimz 06/29/2017 at 13:10

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Well, I mean, it kind of does. It’s not like it’s sitting in an oil bath and closed, but there is usually oil slapping about in the heads to lubricate things like valves and cams, and such. The PCV stops splatter from passing out, I guess, is the better way to say it. But yeah, I’ve had a PCV goes tango uniform on me, and that’s what it looked like in the TB.

Dave the car guy , still here > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/29/2017 at 15:22

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No problem then. Put on some head banging metal and swap that sucker.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/29/2017 at 15:41

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Contrary to what everyone else is saying, this is normal on many engines. Just a byproduct of the crankcase breather system. I wouldn’t worry unless the engine is fouling plugs or consuming too much oil between changes.

MM54 > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/29/2017 at 15:51

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Cars like this with low-mileage engine failures I always assume is because the owner didn’t know that you have to change the oil, one of the outcomes of which is that the rings/bores wear out, you get a ton of blowby, and your crankcace ventilation is now basically spewing oil into the intake while trying to keep up. That’s my guess what happened here, too.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dave the car guy , still here 06/29/2017 at 16:55

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That has to be one of the easiest engines ever to swap. The car is a dream to work on. Let’s see if I can get it right... The LKQ engine came with a complete engine harness, it looks like.

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Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 06/29/2017 at 16:56

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I’m replacing it. The air filter was pretty oily as well.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > MM54 06/29/2017 at 16:58

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That’s probably exactly what happened. The man who sold it to me, a longtime family friend, said it was his daughter’s and she never changed the oil. Two of the tires were completely bald and might have come new with the car, 68,000 miles ago.

I gave $1,700 for the car and $800 for the new (29k mi) engine.

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Dave the car guy , still here > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/30/2017 at 08:12

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Over here that LKQ engine harness would have a few ends missing. They like to hack them off .

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Dave the car guy , still here 06/30/2017 at 10:33

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Yes, I am stunned by the excellent condition of this assembly. And by how easy this Versa is to work on. This has to be one of the world’s easiest engines to remove. Though it’s not out just yet...